President Biden participated in his first sit-down interview since his disastrous debate efficiency final week.
He spoke on Friday to ABC Information’ George Stephanopoulos, commenting on his “unhealthy episode,” when it occurred to him he was performing poorly on the debate and dodging repeated questions on taking a neurological check.
Biden’s interview aired in full for the primary time Friday night after mounting calls inside the Democratic Get together that Biden bow out of the race because of considerations over his age and psychological acuity. Biden has vowed to stay within the race regardless of conventional allies and media retailers calling on him to go the political baton to a youthful Democratic contender.
Beneath is Biden’s full interview transcript with Stephanopoulos, as reported by ABC Information:
BIDEN REPEATEDLY DODGES QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER HE’D TAKE NEUROLOGICAL TEST: ‘NO ONE SAID I HAD TO
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Mr. President, thanks for doing this.
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Thanks for having me.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Let’s begin with the talk. Eh, you and your crew mentioned, have mentioned you had a nasty night time. However your …
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Certain did.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: However your pal Nancy Pelosi truly framed the query that I believe is on the minds of thousands and thousands of People. Was this a nasty episode or the signal of a extra severe situation?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: It was a nasty episode. No indication of any severe situation. I used to be exhausted. I did not hearken to my instincts when it comes to getting ready and … and a nasty night time.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: You already know, you say you have been exhausted. And … and I do know you’ve got mentioned that earlier than as nicely, however you got here … and you probably did have a tricky month. However you got here house from Europe about 11 or 12 days earlier than the talk, spent six days in Camp David. Why wasn’t that sufficient relaxation time, sufficient restoration time?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: As a result of I used to be sick. I used to be feeling horrible. Matter of reality, the docs with me, I requested in the event that they did a COVID check as a result of they’re attempting to determine what was improper. They did a check to see whether or not or not I had some an infection, , a virus. I did not. I simply had a very unhealthy chilly.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: And … did you ever watch the talk afterwards?
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PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: I do not assume I did, no.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Nicely, what I am strive … what I need to get at is, what have been you experiencing as you have been going via the talk? Did you understand how badly it was going?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Yeah, look, the entire approach I ready, no one’s fault, mine. No person’s fault however mine. I, uh … I ready what I normally would do sittin’ down as I did come again with overseas leaders or Nationwide Safety Council for express element. And I spotted … bout partway via that, , all … I get quoted the New York Instances had me down, at ten factors earlier than the talk, 9 now, or regardless of the hell it’s. The actual fact of the matter is, what I checked out is that he additionally lied 28 instances. I could not … I imply, the way in which the talk ran, not– my fault, nobody else’s fault, nobody else’s fault.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: But it surely appeared such as you have been having bother from the primary query in, even earlier than he spoke.
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Nicely, I simply had a nasty night time. You have had some unhealthy interviews on occasion. I– I can not keep in mind any, however I am positive you probably did.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: I’ve had lots. I suppose the query of– the issue is right here for lots of People watching is, you’ve got mentioned going again to 2020, “Watch me,” to people who find themselves involved about your age. And, , 50 million People watched that debate. It appeared to verify fears they already had.
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Nicely, look. After that debate, I did ten main occasions in a row, together with till 2 within the morning after the talk. I did occasions in North Carolina. I did occasions in — in in Georgia, did occasions like this as we speak, giant crowds, overwhelming response, no– no– no slipping. And so, I simply had a nasty night time. I do not know why.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: And– how– how rapidly did it– did it come to you that you simply have been having that unhealthy night time?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Nicely, it got here to me I used to be havin’ a nasty night time once I realized that even once I was answering a query, although they turned his mic off, he was nonetheless shouting. And I– I let it distract me. I– I am not blaming it on that, however I spotted that I simply wasn’t in management.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: A part of the opposite concern is that– this appears to suit right into a sample of decline that has been reported on just lately. New York Instances had a headline on July 2, “Biden’s lapses are mentioned to be more and more frequent and worrisome.” This is what they wrote.
“Individuals who’ve hung out with President Biden over the previous few months or so mentioned the lapses seem to have grown extra frequent, extra pronounced, and after Thursday d– Thursday’s debate, extra worrisome. By many accounts, as evidenced by video footage, remark and interviews, Mr. Biden just isn’t the identical as we speak as he was even when he took workplace 3½ years in the past.” Related reporting in The Washington Publish and the Wall Avenue Journal. Are you a similar man as we speak that you simply have been whenever you took workplace 3½ years in the past?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: When it comes to successes, sure. I additionally was the man who put collectively a peace plan for the Center East that could be comin’ to fruition. I used to be additionally the man that expanded NATO. I used to be additionally the man that grew the economic system. All the person issues that have been accomplished have been concepts I had or I fulfilled. I moved on.
And so, for instance, , “We-Nicely, that was true then, what’s Biden accomplished currently?” Did you simply simply see as we speak? Simply introduced 200,000 new jobs. We’re movin’ within the course that nobody’s ever taken on. I do know this from days in– in– in the– within the authorities.
I took on Huge Pharma. I beat them. Nobody mentioned I may beat them. I took on all of the issues we mentioned we acquired accomplished, have been informed we could not get accomplished. And a part of it’s what I mentioned once I ran was I needed to do three issues. Restore some decency to the workplace, restore some help for the center class as an alternative of trickle-down economics each from the center out and the underside up the way in which the rich nonetheless do advantageous, everybody does higher, and unite the nation.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: However what has all that work over the past 3½ years value you bodily, mentally, emotionally?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Nicely, I– I– I simply assume it value me a very unhealthy night time, unhealthy run, however, , I– George. I’ve– I am optimistic about this nation. I do not assume we’re a rustic of losers that he factors out. I do not assume America’s in powerful form. I believe America is on the cusp of breaking via in so many unbelievable alternatives.
On this subsequent time period, I am gonna be certain we gotta– straighten out the tax system. I am gonna be certain we’re in a scenario the place we now have healthcare for all folks, the place we’re able the place we have– have baby care and elder care, free up– and all this stuff.
One factor I am proudest of is, keep in mind when my financial plan was put ahead? Lots of the mainstream economists mentioned, “This isn’t gonna work.” Guess what? We now have 16 Nobel laureates, 16 of ’em in economics, saying that “Biden’s subsequent time period could be a sig– enor– primarily based on what he needs to do, huge success.” Trump’s plan would trigger a recession and sig-nif– gi– enhance inflation. I’ve made nice progress, and that is what I plan on doin’. And we will do that.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: I– I– I perceive that, and I am not disputing that. What I am asking you is– about your private scenario. Do you dispute that there have been extra lapses, particularly within the final a number of months?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Can I run the 100 in 10 flat? No. However I am nonetheless in fine condition.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Are you extra frail?
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PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: No.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: I do know you
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Come hold my schedule. (LAUGH)
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: I do know you spoke together with your physician after the talk. What did he say?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: He mentioned he– simply checked out me and mentioned, “You are exhausted.” That is it. I’ve medical medical doctors journey with me in every single place. Each president does, as . Medical medical doctors, among the greatest on the planet, journey with me in every single place I am going. I’ve an ongoing evaluation of what I am doin’, they usually do not hesitate to inform me in the event that they assume there’s one thing improper.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: I do know you mentioned you’ve got an ongoing evaluation. Have you ever had a full neurological and cognitive analysis?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: I’ve had– I get a full neurological check on a regular basis with me. And I’ve had a full bodily. I had, , I imply, I– I have been at Walter Reed for my physicals. I mean–uhm sure, the reply.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: I– I do know your physician mentioned he consulted with a neurologist. I– I suppose I am asking– a barely totally different query. Have you ever had the precise cognitive assessments, and have you ever had a neurologist, a specialist, do an examination?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: No. Nobody mentioned I needed to. Nobody mentioned. They mentioned I am good.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Would you be keen to endure an impartial medical analysis that included neurological and cognit– cognitive assessments and launch the outcomes to the American folks?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Look. I’ve a cognitive check each single day. Day-after-day I’ve that check. All the things I do. You already know, not solely am I campaigning, however I am working the world. Not– and that is not hi– seems like hyperbole, however we’re the important nation of the world.
Madeleine Albright was proper. And each single day, for instance, as we speak earlier than I got here out right here, I am on the telephone with– with the prime minister of– nicely, anyway, I should not get into element, however with Netanyahu. I am on the telephone with the brand new prime minister of England.
I am workin’ on what we have been doin’ with regard to– in Europe with regard to growth of NATO and whether or not it is gonna stick. I am takin’ on Putin. I imply, day-after-day there isn’t any day I am going via there not these selections I’ve to make each single day.
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GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: And you’ve got been doing that, and the American folks have been watching, but their considerations about your age and your well being are rising. In order that’s why I am asking — to reassure them, would you be keen to have the impartial medical analysis?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Watch me between– there is a lotta time left on this marketing campaign. There’s over 125 days.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: So the answer–
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: They’re going to decide.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Proper—the reply proper now could be, no, you– you do not need to do this proper now.
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Nicely, I’ve already accomplished it.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: You talked lots about your successes in– at the start of this interview. And– and I do not need to dispute that, I do not need to debate that. However– as , elections are in regards to the future, not the previous. They’re about tomorrow, not yesterday. And the query on so many individuals’s minds proper now could be, “Are you able to serve successfully for the following 4 years?”
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: George, I am the man that put NATO collectively, the long run. Nobody thought I may increase it. I am the man that shut Putin down. Nobody thought may occur. I am the man that put collectively a South Pacific initiative with AUKUS. I am the man that acquired 50 nations out– not solely in Europe, outdoors of Europe as nicely to assist Ukraine.
I am the man that acquired Japanese to increase their finances. I am the– so I imply, these– and, for instance, once I determined we used to have 40% of pc chips. We invented the chip, the little chip, the pc chip. It is in the whole lot from cellphone to weapons.
And so, we used to have 40%, and we’re all the way down to nearly nothing. So, I get within the airplane, in opposition to the recommendation of all people, and I fly to South Korea. I persuade them to put money into the US billions of {dollars}. Now we now have tens of billions of {dollars} being invested in the US, making us again able we’re gonna personal that trade once more. We have now, I imply, I– I just– anyway. I am– I do not wanna take an excessive amount of credit score. I’ve an excellent employees.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: However maintain on. My– I suppose my level is, all that takes a toll. Do you’ve got the psychological and bodily capability to do it for an additional 4 years?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: I imagine so, I would not be runnin’ if I did not assume I did. Look, I am runnin’ once more as a result of I believe I perceive greatest what needs to be accomplished to take this nation to a totally new new degree. We’re on our approach. We’re on our approach. And, look. The choice just lately made by the Supreme Courtroom on immunity, , the following president of the US, it isn’t nearly whether or not she or he is aware of what they’re doin’.
It is– it’s– it is not– not a few con– a conglomerate of individuals making selections. It is in regards to the character of the president. The character of the president’s gonna decide whether or not or not this Structure is employed the precise approach.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Let me ask you a more durable, extra private query. Are you positive you are being trustworthy with your self whenever you say you’ve got the psychological and bodily capability to serve one other 4 years?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Sure, I’m, as a result of, George, the very last thing I need to do just isn’t have the ability to meet that. I believe, as a few of senior economist and senior overseas coverage specialists say, if I cease now, I might go down in historical past as a reasonably profitable President. Nobody thought I may get accomplished what we acquired accomplished.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: However are you being honest– with your self as nicely about your means to defeat Donald Trump proper now?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Sure. Sure, sure, sure.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: You say that, and let me problem you.
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Certain.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Since you have been shut however behind going into the talk. You are additional behind now by– by any measure. It has been a two-man race for a number of months. Inflation has come down. In these previous couple of months, he is turn out to be a convicted felon. But, you are still falling additional behind.
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: You guys hold saying that. George, do you– look, polling higher than anyone. Do you assume polling information is as correct because it was once?
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: I do not assume so, however I believe whenever you have a look at all of the polling information proper now, it exhibits that he is definitely forward within the fashionable vote, in all probability much more forward within the battleground states. And one of many different key elements there may be, it exhibits that in most of the battleground states, the Democrats who’re working for Senate and the Home are doing higher than you might be.
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: That is common in some states. I carried an terrible lotta Democrats final time I ran in 2020. Look, I keep in mind them tellin’ me the identical factor in 2020. “I can not win. The polls present I can not win.” Bear in mind 2024– 2020, the crimson wave was coming.
Earlier than the vote, I mentioned, “That is not gonna occur. We’re gonna win.” We did higher in an off-year than nearly any incumbent President ever has accomplished. They mentioned in 2023, (STATIC) all of the powerful (UNINTEL) we’re not gonna win. I went into all these areas and all those– all these districts, and we gained.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: All that’s true, however 2020 was an in depth race. And your approval ranking has dropped considerably since then. I believe the final ballot I noticed was at about 36%.
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Woah, woah, woah
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: The variety of People who assume you are too previous to serve has doubled since 2020. Would not a clear-eyed political calculus inform you that it is gonna be a lot more durable to win in 2024?.
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Not whenever you’re working in opposition to a pathological liar. Not when he hadn’t been challenged in a approach that he is about to be challenged. Not when people–
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: You have had months to problem him.
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Oh, positive, I had months, however I used to be additionally doin’ a hell of loads of different issues, like wars around the globe, like protecting NATO collectively, like working– anyway. However look.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Do you actually imagine you are not behind proper now?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: I believe it is in– all of the pollsters I speak to inform me it is a toss-up. It is a toss-up. And once I’m behind, there’s just one ballot I am actually far behind, CBS Ballot and NBC, I imply, excuse me. And– uh–
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: New York– New York Instances and NBC each have– have you ever about six factors behind within the fashionable vote.
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: That is precisely proper. New York Instances had me behind earlier than, something having to do with this race– had me hind– behind ten factors. Ten factors that they had me behind. Nothing’s modified considerably for the reason that debate in The New York Instances ballot.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Simply whenever you have a look at the truth, although, Mr. President, I imply, you gained the favored vote– in– in 2020, but it surely was nonetheless lethal shut within the electoral college–
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: By 7 million votes.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Sure. However you are behind now within the fashionable vote.
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: I do not– I do not purchase that.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Is it well worth the threat?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: I do not assume anyone’s extra certified to be president or win this race than me.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: You already know, the guts of your case in opposition to Donald Trump is that he is solely out for himself, placing his private pursuits forward of the nationwide curiosity. How do you reply to critics who say that by staying within the race, you are doing the identical factor?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Oh, come on. Nicely, I do not assume these critics know what they’re talkin’ about.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: They’re simply improper?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: They’re simply improper. Look, Trump is a pathological liar. Trump is– he is– you ever seen something Trump did that benefited sa– anyone else and never him? You’ll be able to’t reply, I do know.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: I’ve– I’ve questioned him and his allies as persistently as any journalist has.
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Oh, I do know you’ve got. I am not being crucial. I am not being crucial, however look, I imply, the person is a congenital liar. As I mentioned, they identified in that debate, he lied 27– 28 times– instances, no matter quantity, over 20 instances. Speak about how good his economic system was, how he introduced down inflation, how– this can be a man who unlike– solely different President oth– apart from him is Hoover who misplaced extra jobs than he created.
It is a man who informed us to place bleach in our arms to take care of COVID, with a million– over 1,000,000 folks died. It is a man who talks about wantin’ to do away with the well being care provision we put in place. It is a man who needs to present the ability again to Huge Pharma to have the ability to cost exorbitant costs for medicine. It is a man who needs to undo each single factor I’ve accomplished, each single– each single factor.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: I perceive that. I perceive that is why you need to keep within the race, however have you ever satisfied your self that solely you’ll be able to defeat him?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: I satisfied myself of two issues. I am probably the most certified particular person to beat him, and I understand how to get issues accomplished.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: If you happen to might be satisfied that you simply can not defeat Donald Trump, will you stand down?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: (LAUGH)- It relies upon on– on if the Lord Almighty comes down and tells me that, I’d do this.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Nicely, if– I imply, on a extra sensible degree, The Washington Publish simply reported within the final hour that Senator Mark Warner is– is assembling a bunch of Senators collectively to try to persuade you to face down, as a result of they do not assume you’ll be able to win.
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Nicely, Mark is an efficient man. We have by no means had … He additionally tried to get the nomination too. Mark’s not– Mark and I’ve a special perspective. I respect him.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: And if Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries and Nancy Pelosi come down and say, “We’re nervous that for those who keep within the race, we’re gonna lose the Home and the Senate,” how will you reply?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: I– I might go into element with them. I’ve speaken to all of them intimately, together with Jim Clyburn, each one among ’em. All of them mentioned I ought to keep within the race– keep within the race. Nobody said– not one of the folks mentioned I ought to go away.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: But when they do?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Nicely, it is, like, (LAUGH) they are not gonna do this.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: You’re positive?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Nicely, Yeah, I’m positive. Look. I imply, if the Lord Almighty got here down and mentioned, “Joe, get outta the race,” I might get outta the race. The Lord Almighty’s not comin’ down. I imply, these hypotheticals, George, if, I imply, it is all–
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: However– but it surely’s– it’s– it isn’t that hypothetical anymore. I– I– I– I grant that the– they haven’t k– requested a gathering, but it surely’s been reported–
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: However they– I met with them. I met with a lotta these folks. I speak with them recurrently. I had an hour dialog with Hakeem. I had extra time … with Jim Clyburn. I hung out with many hours on and off within the final little bit with Chuck Schumer. It is not like– I had all of the governors– all of the governors.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: I agree that the Lord Almighty’s not gonna come down, however if– if– in case you are informed reliably out of your allies, from your mates and supporters within the Democratic Get together within the Home and the Senate that they are involved you are gonna lose the Home and the Senate for those who keep in, what’s going to you do?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: I am not gonna reply that query. It is not gonna occur.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: What’s your plan to show the marketing campaign round?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: You noticed it as we speak. What number of– how many individuals draw crowds like I did as we speak? Discover me extra enthusiastic than as we speak? Huh?
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: I imply, have– I do not assume you wanna play the group sport. Donald Trump can draw huge crowds. There is no query about that.
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PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: He can draw an enormous crowd, however what does he say? Who– who does he have? I am the man supposedly in bother. We raised $38 million inside 4 days after this. Over– we now have over 1,000,000 particular person contributors, particular person contributors. That– that is lower than 200 bucks. We have now– I imply, I am not seen what you’re– you are proposing.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: You have not seen the– the fall-off within the polls? You have not seen the reviews of discontent within the Democratic Get together, Home Democrats, Senate Democrats?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: I’ve seen it from the press.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: You already know, I’ve heard from dozens of your supporters over the previous few days, and a wide range of views, I grant you that. However the prevailing sentiment is that this. They love you, and they are going to be ceaselessly grateful to you for defeating Donald Trump in 2020.
They assume you’ve got accomplished an excellent job as president, loads of the successes you outlined. However they’re nervous about you and the nation. They usually do not assume you’ll be able to win. They need you to go along with grace, and they’ll cheer you for those who do. What do you say to that?
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: I say the overwhelming majority should not the place that– these of us are. I do not doubt there are some of us there. Have you ever ever seen a group– ta– time when elected officers working for workplace aren’t little nervous? Have you ever ever seen that? I’ve not. Similar factor occurred in 2020. “Oh, Biden, I do not know. Man, what’s he gonna do? He could convey me down, he could …”
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Mr. President, I’ve by no means seen a President 36% approval get re-elected.
PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Nicely, I do not imagine that is my approval ranking. That is not what our polls present.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: And for those who keep in and Trump is elected and the whole lot you are warning about involves go, how will you’re feeling in January?
PRESIDENT BIDEN: I am going to really feel so long as I gave it my all and I did the goodest job as I do know I can do, that is what that is about. Look, George. Consider it this manner. You have heard me say this earlier than. I believe the US and the world is at an inflection level when the issues that occur within the subsequent a number of years are gonna decide what the following six, seven many years are gonna be like.
And who’s gonna have the ability to maintain NATO collectively like me? Who’s gonna have the ability to be able the place I can hold the Pacific Basin able the place we’re– we’re at the least checkmating China now? Who’s gonna– who’s gonna do this? Who has that attain? Who has– who is aware of all these pe…? We’re gonna have, I suppose a great way to guage me, is you are gonna have now the NATO convention right here in the US subsequent week. Come pay attention. See what they are saying.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Mr. President, thanks in your time.
PRESIDENT BIDEN: Thanks. Recognize it.
